{"id":49974,"date":"2019-03-06T14:02:27","date_gmt":"2019-03-06T13:02:27","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.parokeets.com\/sl\/?p=49974"},"modified":"2024-06-22T18:20:31","modified_gmt":"2024-06-22T16:20:31","slug":"retinoidi-tretinoin-adapalen-retinol-retinal","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.parokeets.com\/sl\/2019\/03\/retinoidi-tretinoin-adapalen-retinol-retinal\/","title":{"rendered":"Retinoidi: tretinoin, adapalen, retinol, retinal"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\u010ce \u017ee govorimo o sestavinah, za\u010dnimo pri najbolj bombasti\u010dni skupini, super heroju med aktivi &#8211; <strong>RETINOIDI<\/strong>. Retinoid ni ena sama sestavina, temve\u010d <strong>ime skupine<\/strong>, ki skriva kopico derivatov vitamina A in sorodnih aktivov.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Retinoidi: tretinoin, adapalen, retinol | #inciklopedija\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/ya7qCTld2oI?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<h3>Tretinoin<\/h3>\n<p>Tretinoin oz. <strong>retinojska\u00a0kislina<\/strong> je zadnje \u010dase pogosto na tapeti antiaging nege. Oz. se tako samo nam zdi, ker ga v tujini <strong>\u017ee desetletja<\/strong> uporabljajo v ta namen. To\u010dno to, pa je eden izmed razlogov, da sem se \u010dutila zadosti varno, da za\u010dnem eksperimentirati z njim. Tudi pri zdravilih\u00a0 vedno vpra\u0161am katero je najdalj \u010dasa na tr\u017ei\u0161\u010du, ker vem, da imajo o takih najve\u010d podatkov. :D<\/p>\n<p>Tretinoin je en tak super aktiv in <strong>vpliva na<\/strong>:<br \/>\n\u2022 gube (spodbuja nastanek kolagena in elastina)<br \/>\n\u2022 akne<br \/>\n\u2022 odpravlja hiperpigmentacije<br \/>\n\u2022 se uporablja pri dolo\u010denih ko\u017enih rakih<br \/>\n\u2022 nekatere oblike ko\u017enih rakov pa naj bi uporaba prepre\u010devala, ker skrbi za redno obnovo celic<br \/>\n\u2022 uporablja se ga pri luskavici<br \/>\n\u2022 poro\u010dajo tudi o dobrem efektu na strije, kar moram pa \u0161e testirati na mojih belih kanjonih (nekako moram v promet spraviti Airol, ki nesre\u010dno \u010daka v hladilniku :P)<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"td_quote_box td_box_center\"><p>Tretinoina se ne sme uporabljati v nose\u010dnosti, odsvetovan pa je tudi med dojenjem. Podobno opozorilo velja za ve\u010dino retinoidov.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Tretinoin se z razlogom tretira kot <strong>zdravilo<\/strong> in je v ve\u010dini dr\u017eav na voljo le na recept (tudi pri nas). So pa dr\u017eave, ki so izjeme in tretinoin prodajajo v lekarnah tudi brez recepta (vas gledam Mehika, Gr\u010dija &#8230;).<br \/>\nNa voljo je ponavadi v obliki gela ali kreme. Meni je najbolj grozen <strong>Airol<\/strong>, ki ima eno tako suho kremasto teksturo in ga je te\u017eko namazati, razmazati + meni ironi\u010dno povzro\u010da mozolje.<br \/>\n<strong>Retin-A<\/strong> formulacije so mi po drugi strani veliko bolj v\u0161e\u010d in tudi vidim zakaj je mehi\u0161ka verzija tako pohvaljena. \u010ce se odpravljate v Mehiko &#8230; :D<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Dodatne informacije<\/span>:<br \/>\n&#8211; Majina serija o njenih izku\u0161njah s tretinoinom<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"TRETINOIN: NAJBOLJ\u0160I ANTIAGEING IZDELEK - OSNOVE - KAKO UPORABLJATI (AIROL, RETIN-A)\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/QJlhOcAlqxc?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>&#8211; dr. Anin post o vitaminu A za vse, ki \u017eelite sli\u0161ati ve\u010d iz strokovnega vidika: blog post.<\/p>\n<h3>Adapalen<\/h3>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.parokeets.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/Tretinoin-cena.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-53394 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/www.parokeets.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/Tretinoin-cena-450x800.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"450\" height=\"800\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.parokeets.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/Tretinoin-cena-450x800.png 450w, https:\/\/www.parokeets.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/Tretinoin-cena-578x1028.png 578w, https:\/\/www.parokeets.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/Tretinoin-cena-56x100.png 56w, https:\/\/www.parokeets.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/Tretinoin-cena-864x1536.png 864w, https:\/\/www.parokeets.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/Tretinoin-cena-150x267.png 150w, https:\/\/www.parokeets.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/Tretinoin-cena.png 1080w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a>\u010ce vam povem, da je adapalen glavna u\u010dinkovina v <strong>Differinu<\/strong> oz <strong>Belakne<\/strong>, boste verjetno takoj vedeli o \u010demu je govora. Ve\u010dina tistih, ki imamo problemati\u010dno ko\u017eo, je verjetno \u017ee dobila recept za enega ali drugega.<\/p>\n<p>Adapalen prav tako skrbi za hitrej\u0161o zamenjavo celic, se ne izklju\u010duje z benzil peroksidom (kar ne velja za tretinoin) in nam ga radi predpi\u0161ejo skupaj s\u00a0klindamicinom.<br \/>\nNa \u017ealost, pride ponavadi z navodili tipa takoj za\u010deti z vsakodnevno uporabo. Pri meni je bilo to najve\u010dji minus in tudi razlog zakaj sem hitro opustila uporabo. Ko\u017ea je bila grozno izsu\u0161ena, ob\u010dutljiva, uporabljala sem ga v \u010dasu bolj crapy kemi\u010dnih filtrov in tudi sama SPF za\u0161\u010dita ni bila glih super.<\/p>\n<p>V drugo, sem bila \u017ee oboro\u017eena z morjem informacij. Za\u010dela sem <strong>zelo postopoma<\/strong> (1x tedensko), \u017ee vedela katera \u010distila se pri meni dobro obnesejo in niso preve\u010d agresivna, s \u010dem zakleniti gel (moji mastni ko\u017ei je gel bolj v\u0161e\u010d kot krema, a sta obe formulaciji uporabni) &#8230; SPFi so pa tudi \u017ee napredovali do te stopnje, da so tudi mineralni \u017ee dobri in ne izgledamo kot duhovi &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Trenutno sem v fazi firbcanja kako so se kaj razvile formule z azelai\u010dno kislino, ki so u\u010dinkovita re\u0161itev za mozoljaste probleme.<br \/>\nPogledujem po Finacei, Paula&#8217;s Choice 10% boosterju z azelai\u010dno in \u010dakam na prva Da\u0161ina poro\u010dila. Tokrat njej prepu\u0161\u010dam vlogo poskusnega zaj\u010dka. :D<\/p>\n<p>Adapalen se uporablja pri:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>aknah<\/strong> (duh, za to je bil tudi razvit)<\/li>\n<li>pri pilarni keratozi<\/li>\n<li>trdih \u017euljih<\/li>\n<li>ali ima kak antiaging u\u010dinek je stvar hudih debat &#8211; primerljiv s tretioninom se meni sicer ne zdi, ne bi pa rekla, da nima nikakr\u0161nega u\u010dinka<\/li>\n<li>zelo dobro se je odrezal tudi pri odpravljanju mastne bule velikosti oreha (sem menjala \u0161\u010ditni\u010dna zdravila in dobila najbolj \u010duda\u0161ke podko\u017ene tvorbe ever)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Dodatne informacije<\/span>:<br \/>\n&#8211; \u010de se potepate po ZDA, je Differin na voljo brez recepta<br \/>\n&#8211; podobno velja za Sono v Srbiji<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>POST o treh najla\u017ejih na\u010dinih za vpeljevanje retinoidov v rutino: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.parokeets.com\/sl\/2022\/01\/uvajanje-aktivov-tretinoin-glikolna-azelaicna-kislina\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">https:\/\/www.parokeets.com\/sl\/2022\/01\/uvajanje-aktivov-tretinoin-glikolna-azelaicna-kislina\/<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<h3><\/h3>\n<h3>Retinol in Retinal<\/h3>\n<p>Izdelki z ni\u017ejo vsebnostjo retinola so vsem dostopni. Kupimo jih v lekarni, na spletu &#8230; Zato se nanj nana\u0161a najve\u010d va\u0161ih vpra\u0161anj, a sem jaz nad to skupino najmanj navdu\u0161ena. Osebno me izdelki niso pretirano impresionirali, nisem opazila ni\u010d ve\u010d kot samo povr\u0161inski efekt in ker si \u017eelim \u010desa bolj konkretnega &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Vendar retinol ima svoj prostor pod soncem, zato si zaslu\u017ei svojih 5 minut. Retinol se po nanosu na ko\u017eo s pomo\u010djo encimom pretvori najprej v\u00a0retinaldehid, ki se mora nato pretvoriti naprej v retinojsko kislino. Dolga pot torej do cilja, ne vemo pa niti tega koliko retinojske je na koncu sploh nastalo.<\/p>\n<p>A ko v dvajsetih za\u010denjamo s anti aging nego, pride retinol prav za <strong>po\u010dasno uvajanje<\/strong>, izbri\u0161e lahko povr\u0161inske foto po\u0161kodbe in po \u0161tudijah sode\u010d, u\u010dinkuje na mini gubice.<\/p>\n<p>Mene je najbolj motilo to, da ali nisem videla efekta niti po dolgotrajni uporabi ali pa me je izdelek ve\u0161 \u010das iritiral. Pod \u010drto, nisem videla dolgoro\u010dnega benefita in sem jih upokojila.<\/p>\n<p>Danes so formule \u017ee toliko bolj\u0161e, da se mi zdijo izdelki z retinolom bolj smiselni (pa tudi kominacije so bolj raziskane, priporo\u010dajo recimo vitamin C za duet), a sem se vmes jaz postarala in pri 40ih bolj flirtam z retinalom.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Retinal ali retinaldehid<\/strong> naslednja stopnja konverzije v retinojsko kislino in je 11x mo\u010dnej\u0161i kot retinol, isto\u010dasno pa dale\u010d najbolj priporo\u010den za ob\u010dutljivce z ne\u010disto ko\u017eo. Retinal naj bi bil eden redkih (\u010de ne edini) retinoid, ki ima antibakterijske lastnosti (\u010de i\u0161\u010dete smrtni udarec za P. acnes &#8230;).<br \/>\nTrenutno sem \u0161e v fazi izbiranja najbolj zanimivih izdelkov, potem pa bom verjetno tretinoin zamenjala za retinal v moji antiaging negi. A mora biti retinal v mikroenkapsulirani verziji, v zadostni koli\u010dini &#8230; tako da bom o\u010ditno \u0161e nekaj \u010dasa raziskovala najbolj\u0161e produkte.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Dodatne informacije<\/span>:<br \/>\n&#8211;\u00a0stopnje pretvorbe v retinojsko kislino: Retinyl palmitate \u2192 Retinol \u2192 Retinaldehyde\/Retinal \u2192 Retinoic Acid (Tretinoin)<br \/>\n&#8211; dober pregled \u0161tudij narejenih o retinoidih (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pmc\/articles\/PMC2699641\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">klik<\/a>)<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u010ce vas zanima kateri izdelki z retinALom se dobijo pri nas, sem napisala cel post s pregledom -&gt; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.parokeets.com\/sl\/2021\/03\/retinal-izdelki-na-voljo-v-sloveniji\/\">klik<\/a>.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<h3><\/h3>\n<h3>SPF<\/h3>\n<p>Ne glede na to kateri retionid je va\u0161 izbor, SPF ne sme faliti v va\u0161i negi. Eno brez drugega ne gre, le \u0161e huj\u0161o \u0161kodo si lahko naredite, \u010de niste religiozne pri nanosu.<br \/>\nNaj dodam, da se mineralna za\u0161\u010dita veliko bolje obnese, ker kemi\u010dni filtri dostikrat ne gredo najbolje s ko\u017eo na retinoidih. In \u010de bo va\u0161a izbrana za\u0161\u010dita pred soncem vsebovala veliko alkohola ali parfum &#8230; boste to zelo dobro \u010dutile.<br \/>\nV videu prakti\u010dno pri vsakem retinoidu omenim, da ga uporabljam skupaj z Add Actives C20 Tetraforce boosterjem. Pri meni se je nanos me\u0161anice izkazal do sedaj kot edini na\u010din, da sploh uporabljam retinoide, zato vztrajam pri me\u0161anju. Maja je naredila zelo iz\u010drpno oceno o izdelku, zato priporo\u010dam branje njenega posta &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.parokeets.com\/sl\/2017\/04\/add-actives-c20-tetraforce-vitamin-c\/\">klik<\/a>.<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.parokeets.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/Retinoidi-SPF-Tetraforce-by-Gabi-Nedic-Gejba-Parokeets-bw.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-50005 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/www.parokeets.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/Retinoidi-SPF-Tetraforce-by-Gabi-Nedic-Gejba-Parokeets-bw-1028x663.jpg\" alt=\"Retinoidi - SPF, Tetraforce kombinacija by Gabi Nedic\" width=\"1028\" height=\"663\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.parokeets.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/Retinoidi-SPF-Tetraforce-by-Gabi-Nedic-Gejba-Parokeets-bw-1028x663.jpg 1028w, https:\/\/www.parokeets.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/Retinoidi-SPF-Tetraforce-by-Gabi-Nedic-Gejba-Parokeets-bw-100x65.jpg 100w, https:\/\/www.parokeets.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/Retinoidi-SPF-Tetraforce-by-Gabi-Nedic-Gejba-Parokeets-bw-696x449.jpg 696w, https:\/\/www.parokeets.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/Retinoidi-SPF-Tetraforce-by-Gabi-Nedic-Gejba-Parokeets-bw-1068x689.jpg 1068w, https:\/\/www.parokeets.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/Retinoidi-SPF-Tetraforce-by-Gabi-Nedic-Gejba-Parokeets-bw-651x420.jpg 651w, https:\/\/www.parokeets.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/Retinoidi-SPF-Tetraforce-by-Gabi-Nedic-Gejba-Parokeets-bw.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1028px) 100vw, 1028px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Uporabljate katerega izmed retinoidov? Kak\u0161ne so va\u0161e izku\u0161nje?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Sama nisem ne farmacevt ne zdravnica, tako da pi\u0161em samo o mojih raziskovanjih po literaturi in osebnih izku\u0161njah. Navodila va\u0161ega zdravnika ali farmacevta so seveda tista, ki so za vas najbolj merodajna.<br \/>\nTrudim se vse poenostaviti do najbolj osnovne razlage in se bo zagotovo kaj izgubilo med procesom. Ker moje raziskovanje v 99% poteka v angle\u0161\u010dini, mi slovenski izrazi niso blizu in zagotovo nisem vseh pravilno prevedla.<\/p>\n<p>*vsi <a href=\"https:\/\/www.parokeets.com\/sl\/tag\/inciklopedija\/\">#inciklopedija<\/a> posti so live ter se redno dopolnjujejo in posodabljajo<br \/>\n* hvala <a href=\"http:\/\/cosmedoc.si\/\">Tajki<\/a> in Ur\u0161i za info, da je prevod za retinoic acid all-trans retinojska kislina<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u010ce \u017ee govorimo o sestavinah, za\u010dnimo pri najbolj bombasti\u010dni skupini, super heroju med aktivi &#8211; RETINOIDI. 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